Interview by Matej Jovanovic |MusicWorldWideMagazine| July 2025
Few musicians move as effortlessly between cultures, roles, and generations as Joji Hattori. A Japanese-born, Vienna-raised violinist, conductor, and thinker, he has built a career that transcends borders – musical and otherwise.
Winner of the 1989 International Menuhin Violin Competition and major award recipient at the inaugural Lorin Maazel Conducting Competition in 2002.
We had the chance to sit down for an inspiring conversation just ahead of his busy summer with the Vienna Summer Opera, discussing everything from artistic identity and education to the evolving role of classical music in the 21st century.
Joji Hattori © Anna Stöcher
What inspires you the most in your artistic work and what guides your decision when selecting the program, for example, specifically for the Vienna Opera Summer this year?
I think good artists, they all love music. They deeply love music – that’s for sure. But when it comes to giving performances, concerts, or opera productions, we're always faced with the question of choosing the repertoire. Sometimes, of course, it’s the promoter who has a specific wish. They might say, “We want to invite your orchestra, and we want a Mozart symphony to be included.” Okay, well, that’s easy. Then we’ll include a Mozart symphony.
But many times, they just want the conductor or soloist to suggest the repertoire. And when I decide, I belong to those people who think of the audience first. Depending on where the concert is, what group of people the performance is for, and so on, I choose the repertoire. I don’t decide based on personal concentration on a specific composer over years or anything like that. Some artists do that – there was a conductor who once said, “I’m going to spend two years on Bruckner,” and he would only conduct Bruckner for those years. There’s nothing wrong with that, and if there are promoters who want to hear Bruckner, they’ll go for it.
But for me, it’s different. For example, quite some years ago, I did a few tours to India with the Vienna Chamber Orchestra, where I was principal guest conductor for a long time. These were supported by the Austrian Foreign Ministry and part of a cultural exchange program. Of course, we gave wonderful concerts, and people loved them. But when I performed in India, I made sure to start with a piece everybody knows – something like Eine kleine Nachtmusik – because half the audience had never been to a classical music concert before. You need to catch their attention.
People love familiarity in anything, even with food. You go to a new restaurant, and at least one dish should be something you recognize – ideally, something that reminds you of your childhood. Even people who have never heard a classical concert often recognize the melody of Eine kleine Nachtmusik or Vivaldi’s Four Seasons. Now, some colleagues say, “Oh, this is tacky, this is just being a populist.” But I’m not being populist at all. In terms of quality, I never make compromises. But in terms of repertoire, I always try to choose what people are looking for.
Take the summer opera, for example. We’re a new project – only in our second year. So for the first four or five years, I’m sure we will only perform famous operas. Not just famous operas, but ones that are suitable not only for opera experts – operas where it’s fairly easy to understand the music. Understanding music means understanding emotion.
There are plenty of great composers whose music is actually quite easy to understand emotionally. In our opera festival, in addition to choosing a relatively easy opera, we try to add elements to help the public understand it better, even for those who are not regular opera-goers. Before developing this concept, I analyzed the fact that almost everywhere in the world – especially in German-speaking countries – when children are first introduced to opera, they always choose The Magic Flute.
Now, The Magic Flute's story is actually quite complicated. It’s a fantasy, yes, but not necessarily a straightforward story for children. So why is it always chosen? It’s very simple: the music is beautiful – pure Mozart – but what makes the difference is the spoken dialogue instead of Italian recitatives. Dialogues are accessible to everyone, even children. These dialogues always precede the arias – they explain the conflict or situation, and then the aria expresses that same feeling or story musically.
This makes it much easier for the audience to understand the emotion behind the music. It’s very much like film music. In film, everyone understands the synopsis, and the music then enhances the emotion. If a film is just text, it’s never the same. With music, you experience it more deeply.
That’s why last year, we did Don Giovanni with German dialogues instead of Italian recitatives – so we basically did Don Giovanni in Magic Flute style. People loved it, especially German speakers. For everyone else, we had subtitles in English.
This year, we’re doing La Traviata – an incredible opera, arguably the best Verdi ever wrote. With La Traviata, you can’t delete any recitatives or shorten anything. It’s two hours of perfect music – you cannot change a thing. But between the acts – and there are effectively four, since the second act has two distinct scenes – we will have a narrator.
The narrator will be the reborn spirit of Verdi – the composer himself. And we’ve convinced an extremely famous Austrian actor, Karl Markovics. In Austria, he’s widely known – he was the protagonist in Die Fälscher (The Counterfeiters), which won an Oscar. He’s one of the few Austrian actors to receive such international acclaim. He loves music and agreed to do this. He’ll appear in costume and makeup as Verdi, come on stage, and speak to the audience – explaining why he chose this story, what he saw in Violetta, and what moved him to write the music. He’ll explain the synopsis, but in a deeper, more emotional way. Then comes the music.
I believe this approach will make the opera even more digestible, for lack of a better word. I like serving the needs and interests of the audience. And beyond that, there’s the question of the production itself. At the moment, it’s quite fashionable for opera directors to change the story – to relocate it to a different time or place.
I once saw a production of La Bohème – a story about poor young people in Paris trying to survive. They can’t afford food or medicine. Mimi is sick with tuberculosis. But the director placed the story in modern-day Paris. That can be quite jarring, especially when the text still talks about poverty and illness, yet the characters are walking around with smartphones.
Wiener Opernsommer 2025 © Anna Stöcher
Can you tell me a little bit, about how did the whole festival originate, how did you come to take the role of artistic director? How the whole idea came to life?
I was the Artistic Director of an Open-Air Opera and Operetta Festival in a small town called Kittsee, in Burgenland. It’s a tiny place, but it has a beautiful Baroque castle. The promoter was a good friend – his father came from Kittsee, and he himself was a well-known music manager in Austria. Together, we ran the festival for many years, and for nearly a decade, I was both Artistic Director and conductor.
Unfortunately, the festival ended a few years ago due to a lack of sponsorship. After that, I had to decide whether to look for another summer festival needing an artistic director – which, of course, is difficult, as most festivals already have one.
My partner – the stage director from the Kittsee festival – and I shared a similar philosophy: we believe in serving what people genuinely want. So we started brainstorming and realized something quite surprising: Vienna hasn’t had an open-air opera in about 30 years. Even more surprising, there is no opera at all in Vienna during the summer. All three opera houses close completely.
The major orchestras, like the Vienna Philharmonic, are off in Salzburg or Bregenz. And what remains in Vienna during the summer are tourist-oriented concerts – decent, but not part of the city’s real musical tradition.
So we thought: Why not create something new? A high-quality open-air opera festival in Vienna during the summer. I pitched the idea to the mayor, and he immediately supported it and became the official patron.
Instead of looking for another festival to join, I looked for a company that could promote and manage such an event. I eventually partnered with a Vienna-based events and promotion company that runs large public events like the LichterGarten in Schloss Laxenburg and several Christmas markets. They’re experienced in outdoor productions and agreed to take the risk of launching this new venture with me.
We founded the festival together – and now, we’re in our second year.
Dominik Am Zehnhoff Söns, Karl Markovics, Joji Hattori, Manfred Waba © Jürgen Hammerschmid
You mentioned the production setup – was the stage itself specifically designed and constructed for this new festival?
Last year, we started at the Belvedere Castle, which was an amazing setting. The castle itself served as the backdrop, and we only needed to build a relatively small stage in front of it. We incorporated the entire façade of the castle into the visual storytelling using high-end projection technology. It allowed us to transform scenes by projecting directly onto the castle.
Unfortunately, the collaboration couldn't continue due to upcoming renovations on the castle and the museum inside it, so we had to look for a new venue. That’s when we found the Wiener Eislauf-Verein, an open-air ice skating rink that's unused during summer. Miraculously, it was completely free in July – an ideal space on short notice.
What's remarkable is that right next to the Wiener Eislauf-Verein is the full-length side of the Konzerthaus, one of Vienna’s main concert halls. The original design of the building actually envisioned the main façade facing the Wiener Eislauf-Verein. So now, we can use this expansive façade as part of the visual experience for the festival.
We got permission to install blinds inside the Konzerthaus to block out internal light and prevent interference with our projections. It’s been a very kind and supportive collaboration.
Since this space didn’t offer the natural elevation of Belvedere, we decided to build a much larger custom stage this time. It’s the most costly part of the production, but it allowed us to keep the immersive experience alive in a new location.
Wiener Opernsommer 2025 © Magmag Group
What is the capacity of the stage?
The venue’s capacity this year is about 2,500 seats, and every seat offers an excellent view of the stage.
Unlike last year at the Belvedere, where the orchestra was placed in a separate building about 200–300 meters away from the stage, this year the orchestra will be housed in an enclosed structure right next to the stage. This setup allows the audience to see the orchestra and conductor live during the performance, which is quite unique since in many festivals the orchestra is hidden in a pit or a distant location.
Because it’s an open and large space, we will use sound amplification with a surround sound system, placing speakers around the audience to ensure the sound quality is as close as possible to that of a traditional opera house.
Could you tell us a bit about the orchestra this year, and which stars as well as young talents the audience can look forward to at this edition of the festival?
The orchestra is the Vienna Chamber Orchestra, with whom I’ve worked for over 20 years. They are our official partners and, unlike other orchestras in Vienna, they don’t have their own summer festival, so they have time to collaborate with us.
We also work with the Philharmonia Chorus Vienna, one of Austria’s top choirs, known for performances at the Salzburg Festival and Sankt Margarethen.
Regarding soloists, we have a double cast for the three leading roles due to the 12 performances, to keep the cast fresh and safe.
One standout artist is Cristina Pasaroiu, a Romanian soprano with a prestigious opera career at the Vienna State Opera, Berlin, Zurich, and more. Recently, she’s explored a unique music style combining emotional live singing with techno influences and toured with Bocelli. She has over 400,000 Instagram followers, a remarkable number for a classical singer, and is returning to opera this season.
Another leading star is Nathalie Peña-Comas from the Dominican Republic, a major name in South America, studying and working now in Vienna.
For the tenor Alfredo, we have Liparit Avetisyan, an Armenian tenor gaining international fame who will perform the role at the Met next year. He’s already performed major roles in Vienna, London, and New York.
We also have David Kerber, a very young Austrian tenor in his mid-20s, already performing Alfredo at the Volksoper and seen as a rising talent.
The role of Germont is shared by Thomas Weinhappel, a well-known young Austrian singer, and Stepan Drobit, a Ukrainian baritone, whom I discovered at a performance in Prague.
Other smaller roles are performed by notable local artists like Juliette Khalil, a popular figure at the Volksoper.
Finally, Mr. Markovics will perform in most shows, with a cover for the rare occasions he can’t.
Our set designer, Manfred Waba, is an expert in large open-air productions, having designed sets in Mörbisch and Sankt Margarethen for many years.
Cristina Pasaroiu as Violetta Valéry
© Anna Stöcher
Liparit Avetisyan as Alfredo Germont
© Anna Stöcher
Karl Markovics as Giuseppe Verdi
© Anna Stöcher
Vienna is known for its rich musical and cultural history. In your experience, how does the Viennese audience’s response to classical music – especially opera – compare to audiences in other cities around the world?
The Vienna audience, especially those attending subscription concerts of the Vienna Philharmonic, is quite unique and traditional. It’s almost exclusively local Viennese people, generally conservative in taste, preferring classical repertoire and often less open to modern composers. These concerts are always sold out, and the right to buy season tickets has traditionally been passed down through families, showing how deeply rooted this audience is in the city’s musical tradition.
That said, this conservatism is gradually changing. Like elsewhere in the world, attracting younger audiences to classical music remains a challenge. We run many educational programs for schools to bring young people closer to opera and classical concerts. I believe it’s okay if people start appreciating this music in their 30s or 40s because it’s mature music that takes time to understand. Of course, some young people love it too, but I’m not worried if there aren’t many 20-year-olds in my productions – many will develop an interest 20 years later.
Vienna’s audience can also be very strict and vocal when they don’t like something, but overall, once people come to a concert, they usually enjoy the experience. The real challenge is getting them through the door, and that’s why I really appreciate efforts to make classical music more accessible and inviting to new audiences.
Short Questions
Do you have any personal rituals before a performance?
Not really. I’m not much of a routine person.
Do you usually eat before and after concert?
I don't eat before a concert, no, and of course I cannot drink before a concert.
Only once in my life I drank before concert ... In my days as a violin soloist, I think to play Bruch Concerto, and it was in the winter somewhere in the middle of nowhere in England in a church. I think it was only 15 degrees or even less. It was so cold, so I went to have a one shot of whiskey before. (laughs)
So I always eat after the concerts. I don't eat any breakfast – I only eat lunch and dinner. And if there's concert, I eat my dinner after.
What is your favorite dish and is it maybe available at your restaurant Shiki as well?
Overall, I prefer light food – not too heavy or fatty.
Well, food has always been another passion of mine, especially cooking for friends. About 15 years ago, when I turned 40, I wasn’t happy with the lifestyle of a musician. I loved the music, but the lifestyle was difficult. Being a soloist or conductor means no fixed location – you’re self-employed, traveling all the time, living out of a suitcase, staying in hotels, spending your life around people you rarely see. You always have to keep in contact, network, and so on. It’s very tough and lonely.
I hadn’t started a family yet, I was still single at 40. So I decided to do something about it and become a part-time musician. Of course, you’re young and active, so you have to decide what to do with the other half of your time. To be honest, I made that decision mainly to travel less and be in one place more. And I was right – because as soon as I opened my restaurant, I met my wife just one month later. Knowing you’re in one place most of the time creates a different kind of aura. It’s easier for someone to fall in love with you when you’re actually available.
Then I thought about what else I wanted to do. I had studied anthropology and considered an academic career, but in the end, I wanted something I was truly passionate about – food. Vienna was missing a high-end Japanese restaurant, so I decided to invest in opening one. That’s how it all started.
As for what I like – well, I love Japanese food, especially fish. My favorite cooked fish is the famous black cod. When it comes to raw fish, I enjoy all kinds of white fish and tuna. But fantastic quality fish in Austria is limited since there’s no sea nearby. I also like meats. Interestingly, my wife used to be vegan, but she started eating fish after meeting the owner of a Japanese restaurant.
Could you recommend some hidden gem of classical music to our readers?
Well, there are two pieces I’d like to mention – it might sound like a strange comparison, but if I knew I had only one day left to live, I would want to listen to just two recordings on that last day.
Both of them are quite short, just a few minutes each. The first one isn’t new repertoire, but it’s very special to me – the Bach transcriptions played by Lipatti. Lipatti was a Romanian pianist who died very young, but his recordings of Bach’s transcriptions are truly remarkable. There are three of them, and together they last no more than 10 minutes. Any one of them would be enough to deeply move me.
The second piece I would listen to is La Romanesca, a piece for violin and piano written by Achron. If you search for La Romanesca by Yehudi Menuhin on YouTube, you’ll find a wonderful performance of it right away.
La Romanesca played by a 12-year-old Yehudi Menuhin. For me, it’s one of the most spiritual performances I’ve ever heard, on par with Lipatti’s Bach transcriptions. Lipatti was seriously ill when he recorded those, which adds a deep, almost otherworldly feeling to his playing.
Menuhin’s performance is remarkable because of his age, but also because of the pure spirituality in it. There’s a famous story that Einstein was in the audience when Menuhin played Beethoven’s concerto at age 12, and he said it was one of the closest experiences he had to proof of life after death. Einstein believed that the soul expressed in Menuhin’s music was older than the boy himself – a kind of scientific acknowledgment of the soul’s existence beyond the body.
La Romanesca is just about four minutes long, but it carries incredible depth and emotion. I highly recommend giving it a listen.
Also, from the opera repertoire, I’d recommend the final trio from Richard Strauss’s Rosenkavalier. It’s deeply moving and spiritual – music about selflessness and idealism, some of the most beautiful human expressions I know. Despite controversies around Strauss’s life, this music speaks to something pure and profound. Another operatic highlight, again music expressing selflessness is the Violetta – Germont duet Dite alla giovine in Verdi's La Traviata.
You were the principal guest conductor of the Vienna Chamber Orchestra. Could you share a memorable story or an experience from your time with the orchestra?
I have a strong bond with that orchestra because it was the first orchestra I played with as a soloist in Vienna. That concert was with Yehudi Menuhin conducting, and I was the soloist after winning his competition when I was 20. I had the great privilege of knowing Yehudi Menuhin quite well then, as he took me on many tours as his soloist. At that time, he was only conducting and no longer playing violin himself. So that was already the Vienna Chamber Orchestra. My first public concert with Yehudi Menuhin was in Vienna with that orchestra.
About 15 years later, when I turned to conducting, my manager in Vienna, who was also my manager as a violinist, encouraged me to start conducting. He thought I was talented and recommended I compete in the Lorin Maazel conducting competition, where I won second prize. That helped my career a lot. After that competition, I became associate conductor, then principal guest conductor of the Vienna Chamber Orchestra. I've worked with them regularly for over 20 years, conducting at least five times every season. That’s been a long, long relationship.
As both a conductor and a violinist, what do you see as the key differences and similarities between the two disciplines? In what ways do they complement each other in your artistic work?
In principle, the work of a soloist is much more specialized activity. Of course, great soloists and great musicians always have a deep understanding of the music as a whole, and when they play a concerto, they know the orchestra score and understand it. But still, they have to create something – an art, an atmosphere, an aura – they have to do all that by themselves first.
A conductor is, at the end of the day, a team person. So that makes it quite different. Although at the beginning it was difficult because I did not have the training or education as a conductor – until I got that prize and then had some lessons from Maazel. He helped a lot.
But still, I was never technically very accomplished as a conductor; I was much more accomplished technically on the violin. But my personality was much more suitable to being a conductor.
I'm not a soloist type, because I don’t like working on my own – and this says everything. You are a pianist (interviewer Matej Jovanovic), if you hate working on your own as a solo pianist, you can just forget your career.
I don’t like to work alone. I love working with people. Now, being the intendant of the opera festival, you’re constantly working with people – finding people, connecting people, discussing, listening to people.
Yeah, this is me.
How do you balance your many roles as a performing musician, artistic director, owner of a top tier restaurant? What does a typical day look like for you?
In regard to time management, I'm very flexible. In a way, I always wake up every morning and think, what is the most urgent thing? That's what I do first. By having this list system, it's less stressful.
At the beginning, when you start doing many things, yes, I was constantly stressed because you think you have to do everything at once. Once you have a list, you spend a few minutes every day thinking about the priority of the list and change the position of what to do first. In that sense, you should have the attitude of a public servant with his papers he has to stamp. Of course, this is a bit of a joke – it's the opposite of my life – but with my to-do's, I do it like that.
So I always take the top pages and say, "What do I do?" Now, okay, I need to hire Alfredo, So let's think, telephone, agent, go. After you found him, tick. Next one. After I write the new menu, an so on... (laughs)
How do you see modern technology affecting classical music and the younger generation of musicians? In what ways is building a musical career today different from when you were starting out?
Well, I mean, technology has a huge impact on modern pop music, but since the beats and percussion became electronic, I can't enjoy it as much. In heavy metal, drums are played by humans, so it’s not 100% even, which feels more organic. For me, I love classical music because its content hasn’t changed much due to technology. La Traviata, for example, hasn’t changed musically because of technology – only technical improvements like better recordings, which is a plus.
What has changed a lot is how you build a career today because of technology and mentalities. People are bombarded with too much information – emails, videos. When I was a child, TV started only at 5 PM, with limited channels, and there was no internet. So if you were bored, you read a book or played an instrument.
In the old days, competitions were important for exposure and meeting conductors. Having a commercial recording was essential for soloists – it proved you were affiliated professionally. Giving recitals and receiving critic reviews had a big impact.
Nowadays, critics don’t attend young musicians’ concerts, newspapers rarely report on concerts unless it’s a famous artist like Netrebko, and society is much more visual. TV has been replaced by streaming and YouTube. So the strongest tools are Google and YouTube. When young musicians ask me how to promote their career, I say, “Google and YouTube.” Your online presence is your business card – good photos, a homepage, and top-quality videos should appear first in search results.
If old or poor-quality videos come up first, you need to fix that – possibly by sponsoring videos on YouTube. Social media like Instagram and Facebook help once you’re established, but if you’re unknown, you don’t need them yet. Too many selfies can invite ridicule.
The most important thing is a good homepage, with the best photos, recordings, and videos appearing at the top on Google and YouTube.
Finally, what advice would you give to young musicians who are trying to build a career in classical music today?
There’s no point in just meeting people if your presence isn’t right, because when you meet a conductor or manager, what do they do? They Google you. Everyone does – whether it’s the director of a state opera or the manager of the Vienna Philharmonic, when they hear about a young artist, they go home and look you up online on Google and YouTube. That’s standard now.
Sending a physical CD? Ninety-nine percent get thrown away. Even sending memory sticks or email recordings isn’t very effective. People don’t really trust what you send directly. They want to hear your name and then do their own research. They think recordings you send might be heavily edited or pieced together to sound perfect, but that doesn’t show who you really are.
Audio recordings alone aren’t enough anymore, because it’s easy to mix together many takes to make something sound flawless. People want uncut, authentic video of your performance. Not edited from multiple cameras, but a single, honest take.
Visual presence is incredibly important now, especially with social media. Psychology is such that people connect strongly with visuals, so being visually appealing in concerts and online is key. The whole package – your presence, your performance, your online footprint – matters for building a career in today’s classical music world.
Wiener Opernsommer 2025 © Anna Stöcher